Wednesday, July 12, 2006

The Church, Israel, Jews & The Apple Of God's Eye

Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him,
saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to
Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times
or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
- Acts 1:6 & 7

Jesus Disciples asked Him if Israel would be restored (free
from Roman occupation) and have the "Son of David" (Jesus)
rule (Is 9:6 & 7) forever from Jerusalem.

This indicates:

1) The Disciples had been taught to expect this.

2) Jesus did not correct them.

Very sorry to my great "covenant" friends but you're wrong
here. The church is not Israel and the two are forever different
with different roles & different futures.

Israel will have to go through the 7 year Tribulation period while
the Church will be taken up shortly before. After King Jesus -
The Jewish Messiah returns, He will rule the entire Earth for
1000 years. The promises of the Old Testament requires this
& the final Book of the Bible demands it.


At 9/21/2006, Anonymous Jen said...

You probably won’t post this, but at least consider it for your own edification. I’ll put it on my blog if you don’t post it.

John 18:38 Jesus says his kingdom is not of this world! That should tell us something about any earthly reign!

2 Pet 3:10ff tells us the earth will be burned up at Jesus coming (coming=end=burned up). You can’t reign 1000 yrs on something that isn’t there.

1 Cor 15 talks about the coming of the Lord and says the end comes then.
1 Cor 15:24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

2 Thes 1:7-9 also says that both events-judgment on righteous and wicked will happen on the day of the Lord.

Acts 24:15 speaks of one resurrection and 2 groups getting either reward or punishment.

John 5:28-29 says in the hour of his coming the righteous will go to the resurrection of life and the wicked to the resurrection of damnation and all will come out of the grave. One moment and two resurrections are spoken of, not two different events.

John 12:48 his words will judge on the last day
So we see that judgment (not of only righteous or only wicked, but both) will occur on the last day, the day the end comes, the day of the Lord, when the elements will be burned up.

The scriptures tell us that the end, the judgment of all, and burning up of earthly things occurs on the day of the Lord. No one will be left behind as in the infamous books by that title. The scriptures don’t teach that.

How do I know Jesus return, judgment, and destruction of eathly things will happen in one literal day?? Scripture says so. Look at (among others) Luke 17:26-30.

The 1000 years Howdy referred to is figurative. Rev 1:1 tells us that much. There are other instances in scripture that 1000 is used to signify a very large, unspecified number and one example is: Ps. 105: 8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. And the fact that this 1000 year reign is mentioned nowhere else (indeed it is not even mentioned in the “proof text” of Rev 20) should tell one to proceed with caution as well.

Chapter 20 doesn’t even mention bodily resurrection, reign on earth, literal throne of David, Jerusalem or Palestine, or Christ on earth.

Based on the fact that Revelation (the 1000 years) is symbolic, earth will be burned up at Jesus’ return, and Rev 20 (the 1000 years verse) doesn’t refer to earth or fleshly bodies, etc the Premillennial theory of 1000 year reigns and 7 years of tribulation are not supported by scripture.


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